2025 Cap-IM Rec Week: Canonize That!

Jul. 21st, 2025 06:25 am
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Welcome to the 15th anniversary of Cap-IM Rec Week! We’re kicking off with CANONIZE THAT: fanart you think should be canon.  :

This week is all about SteveTony fanart that is so gripping, inspiring, and amazing that it SHOULD be canon – share your favorites that capture the essential magic of their relationship. 

To rec, simply REPLY to this or any other daily Themed post on any platform, or make your own reclist or post:

    DISCORD - use the #look-what-I-found channel
    TUMBLR - tag @cap-ironman in you rec post and use #capimrecweek
    BLUESKY - tag @cap-ironman in your post and use #capimrecweek
    DREAMWIDTH - the perfect option if you want to rec anonymously! 

Don’t forget to let us know why you’re reccing a work and please mark any major warnings. HAVE FUN curating. 

Summer of Horror and other fun things

Jul. 20th, 2025 10:13 pm
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[personal profile] summerofhorrorexchange revealed today! I got an astonishing 15K(!!!) Biggles fic (!!!) which I won't be able to properly start reading until tomorrow, but I cannot WAIT, it looks amazing and I'm dying to read it!

Obligatory reminder that I have a fic in the exchange as well. Deeply mysterious, hid my tracks amazingly as usual. And there is a lovely selection of other horror fic as well!

Earlier today, before all of that, I posted yet another Murderbot TV-verse fic, System // Handshake (2500 wds, gen, post-canon). Summary is spoilery for the finale; it's loosely springboarded off another fic I'd read earlier.

There's also this seriously adorable short interview with the whole Murderbot cast (link goes to Tumblr) in which they talk about playing the Bitter/Sweet game from the show on the set. HOW ARE THEY SO CUTE, I DIEEEEEE

And, longer and more serious, but I really enjoyed watching this David Dastmalchian interview; he talks about the show, as well as some of his other projects (Dune; comic book writing) and is so adorably excited about the show and invested in it.

Temperature Flash fic reveals

Jul. 17th, 2025 10:44 pm
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Terrible Temperature Flash authors were revealed this evening, and I wrote two not at all predictable fics:

A Touch of Warmth (Biggles books, Biggles/EvS, 1000 words)
This was entirely for the mental image of Erich wrapping his coat around a chilled Biggles. ♥

Taking the Heat (Babylon 5, Vir & Londo gen, 2500 wds)
Londo gets heatstroke on Centauri Prime. This was a treat for the h/c of it all.
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SCHEDULE



 

JUL 16: Writer Sign-Ups OPEN
AUG 15: Writer Sign-Ups CLOSE

SEP 30: 1st Draft Checkpoint (25% of draft)

NOV 14: 2nd Draft Checkpoint (50% of draft); Claims Kit Due. ✨Last Drop Op for Writers ✨
NOV 22: Art Claims

DEC 12: Collab Checkpoint

JAN 11: 3rd Draft Checkpoint (75% of draft)

FEB 14: Artist Checkpoint
MAR 15: Final Draft Due (100%)

APR 1+: BANG

FAQ

 


Q: What’s a Big Bang?

A: A Big Bang is a fandom event where authors and artists commit to putting time and energy into a longer project: writers develop a very long fic and artists sign on to illustrate that work. Early Big Bangs were 50k or more. Ours has been running continuously since 2009 and our wordcount requirement remains 20k (technically novella-length). Of all the events run by Cap-IM, this is the event with the biggest time and creative investment. It’s a celebration of many, many words and the art inspired by those words.

Q: 20k. That is so many words. Am I ready for this?

A: As with any event, consider your available time and energy. We’re hopeful that the longer creation period and several new measures to support our fannish creators will make it easier for our participants! If you’re unsure of your readiness to work on a longer fic, ask yourself:

  • Are you comfortable writing 5k? 10k?

  • Do you think about plot structure and what it’s doing to your story?

  • Do you have an idea that demands a longer wordcount, or, alternately, an idea that is eating you alive from the inside out?

  • Do you want to work on one project for a really long time?

If you’ve never written before, or you’re brand new to Steve/Tony, or you find yourself (over)committing to a ton of fandom events during the year, consider first trying one of our more accessible, lower-pressure events: Bingo, HE, our Summer Event, or, if you're looking for a collaborative event, RBB.


Q: What if I don't think I can read an entire long fic, but I want to sign up as an artist?


A: Fundamentally, the purpose of the Big Bang is to celebrate long fic and to create art inspired by long fic. To celebrate long fic, artists must be willing to read long fic. You will be able to see the estimated length of fics at claims sign-up, and writers are required to submit 50% of their estimated total wordcount, complete. Fics vary in length: some are 20k, some are 80k. You will have 3-4 months to read the fic and collaborate with your writer on your art pieces. Do not overcommit; ask yourself kindly and honestly if you have the time/energy for the investment. Other Cap-IM events such as Reverse Big Bang or Holiday Exchange do not require reading investment.

Q: Can I do art AND fic in the same year?

A: No, you may participate once. Please choose your project intentionally. Artists may choose ONE writing project. Writers may submit ONE work OR, if they are writer-artists, may claim one writing project as an artist. Two different artists may claim one writing project in the event we open second claims. One artist cannot claim two different writing projects.


Q: How can I know if my art is "good enough" to sign up as an artist?


A: There is no metric for artistic skill required for the Big Bang. This is your task to approach bravely. You should be able to complete two thoughtful artistic pieces that you are proud of, in 3-4 months. If drawing/creating something from someone else's descriptions is difficult for you, this is not the project for you. We will host art-hangs where artists can ask for feedback on pieces/art resources/advice throughout the creation period. Remember: this is a voluntary, collaborative effort purely designed to bring you and your partner joy and accomplishment, NOT an unpaid commission.

Q: Must my fic be beta-read?


A: Yes. You must have someone who is not you review your fic before final posting! Beta readers make your work better and they make you a better writer. Even if this is just a cursory read-through done by someone whose eyeballs are not yours, it is required.

Q: I have an idea, but I’m not sure if it’s enough to make a novel.


A: Ultimately, only you can decide this. Here are some things to consider:


  • Have you written fic before? If yes, how long?

  • Have you written longfic before?

  • Do you regularly struggle to build fics out longer than 5-10k, OR do you regularly find yourself brainstorming concepts and premises that end up too long for other events, exchanges, and short fics?

  • Is there an idea already burning inside you, OR is it like pulling teeth to find an idea that you can round out into a longer fic?

  • Do you struggle to manage long-term projects, OR do you write like the wind?

  • What is the most you can sustainably write in a month?


Q: Can I use a sequel or derivative fanwork/remix?

A: Sequels are fine. If you want to write a remix-y work based on someone else’s fanwork, you must adhere to best derivative works practices and secure their permission or adhere to their transformative works statement. Your artist will not be required to read pre-existing works, so temper your expectations.


Q: I want to write a piece involving polyamory, is this allowed?

A: Yes; the only criteria is that the relationship between Steve and Tony must be central and not incidental in your fic. Some examples:

  • YES - Steve and Tony break up in chapter one; the rest of the fic is dedicated to their slow burn reconciliation.

  • NO - Steve/Tony/Rhodey are in a situationship. Steve appears only briefly and Tony’s relationship with Rhodey is central.

  • YES - Steve and Tony are friends and teammates but not romantically involved.

  • YES - Steve and Tony are in a queerplatonic relationship.

  • YES - Steve and Tony have an open relationship and are fucking Jan every other weekend.

  • YES - Steve is in a relationship with Sharon; the narrative focuses on his evolving sexuality and how Tony disrupts his compulsory heterosexual ways of living.

  • NO - Tony and Bucky are in a relationship; they share a tender moment in the wake of Steve’s death.

If you’re still not sure, ask yourself if your fic would be better placed in the Marvel Bang or in a SteveTony bang.


PARTICIPANT ELIGIBILITY

BASIC STAT REQUIREMENTS


 

To participate in this Big Bang, you must:

  • Be 18+ to play!

  • Have an AO3 account to post.

  • Have Discord to attend writer/artist chats and workshops.

  • Check your email regularly to get event updates and mod communications.

  • At the time of sign up, be ban-free. See [BANS] to see how to lift a ban more expeditiously.

  • Writers, you must be able to finish a 20k+ fic in the allotted time.

  • Artists, you must be able to complete at least 2 pieces thematically congruent with the writing project you have claimed in the allotted time.

  • Meet/respond to check-ins and be prepared to share your work with the mod team at intervals. It doesn’t have to be polished, it just has to exist.

  • Attend at least one discord hang during the BB creation period: writer chat/write-in for writers OR art-hang for artists.

We encourage brand new writers to try an event with a lower minimum word count before attempting the Big Bang. Check out HE for a super low word requirement or RBB to learn what it’s like to collaborate with another human.

COMMUNICATION AND COLLAB


This event is a collaborative, creative project. It requires you to communicate your thoughts and feelings about your ideas to another person. Every collaboration will look different, as every person has a different communication style and way of making art.
At minimum, all writers and artists should communicate clearly and frequently with their partners during the important stages of the event, and let partners know if there will be times of radio silence. A successful collab can lead to long-lasting fannish friendship! Keep your mind and heart open and at barest minimum, keep lines of communication open.

Please keep in mind that:

  • Your partner is human

  • Your partner may not be able to meet all your expectations

  • Graciousness and kindness go a long way

  • Communication and compromise are key

  • Your partner is performing serious labor on this project and you should be prepared to meet and respect their effort

  • Your partner cannot read your mind

  • Fandom exists outside the framework of capitalism

Let your partner know immediately if you are struggling. Let the mods know if there is a breakdown in communication and we will gladly help you ease back on track.

WRITERS!

 

FIC REQUIREMENTS

 

Your fic must feature the relationship between Tony Stark and Steve Rogers in any universe(s). This now includes polyromantic, explicit, and queerplatonic/aromantic tales alike. Their romance or friendship must be central to the narrative and not incidental.

Your fic must be 20k or more at completion.

You must leave room in your fic for artistic interpretation and be willing to work WITH an artist on visual articulation of ideas; i.e; this is not a commission.

 

Your fic may not be created in whole or part with generative AI.

 

WIPs that have not been published in full elsewhere but small portions have been shared (ie. community chatter, snippets, or small excerpts) are encouraged! When returning to an old work, we ask only that writers evaluate their own motivations and make sure the story still lights a fire in you.

ALL-NEW, ALL-DIFFERENT SIGN-UPS
All writers who want to participate in this cycle must sign up during the Sign-Up Period. In previous years, participants could join at the last minute, prior to claims, as long as they had 10k of fic. This cycle, you must declare your intent from the start and commit yourself to spending time on your creative project over the course of months.

To sign-up as a writer, you must have:

  • One to three ideas, one of which you will develop into a 20k+ fic, OR

  • A WIP of any length that has previously lived on your hard drive/cloud. WIPs that have been partially published somewhere else as small snippets or fragments are also okay. Fics that are already half-published on AO3 are not okay.

  • Notes, an outline, or other brainstorming documentation to show us how you’re thinking about your idea as a larger, finished story. This can be as formal as a 5-page outline or as informal as a series of moodboards for each act/beat of your novel.

  • A roughest estimate of the length of your finished fic.



CLAIMS KIT
Claims are no longer anonymous/silence-coned. This is designed to afford participants more space to talk about their projects in community and generate/maintain creative momentum. Chat freely about your brainworms and progress.

To qualify for claims, your fic must 50% or more complete with the rest thoroughly outlined. Your artist needs this to assess whether or not your fic is a good match. This draft will be given to your artist upon the completion of the claims process.

All writers must fill out The Claims Kit, which will ask for a fic excerpt, tags, warnings, rating, universe, a summary of plotpoints, and an optional vibes description. This info sheet is where you can convey the details and energy to potential artists courting your work. Artists will choose fic to claim only by the content contained in these posts, so be candid about the themes, mood, and tone of your fic here. DO NOT withhold information about common archive warnings. DO tag any common triggers.

FIC POSTING


 

All finished fic must be beta-read and represent your best effort at storytelling and grammar. Beta readers make your work better and they make you a better writer; you must have one. Check out our beta list or reach out to the mods for help finding one.

Works must be posted to AO3 and submitted to our event collection. Artists and writers are highly encouraged to post their works as 'Inspired By' on AO3, which links the works to each other, but allows single-ownership retention of the work. 'Co-Created' is also an acceptable posting method, to be used with discretion. You must coordinate posting with your artist.

You must warn for any content that requires an archive warning on AO3. CNTW is a valid and complete warning.

Authors may post chapters of their fics serially, weekly, bi-weekly, OR all at once.Your draft must still be complete and submitted by the Big Bang deadline. Cap-IM recognizes that getting eyeballs on long fic has become a substantial challenge in the algorithmic age and this change is intended to help more people see and respond to your hard work.

If you're ready to commit, WRITERS, use this form to sign up!

ARTISTS!

ART REQUIREMENTS

  • Artists must create at least 2 pieces of art for the writing project they have claimed. You can make more if you are moved to do so.

  • Artists must also create a banner. The banner must feature the name of the fic, a SFW crop of an art piece created for the fic (or a new art piece), the artist username, and the writer username.

  • You must READ the fic you claim in its entirety. Make sure you choose something that genuinely interests you!

  • All materials and styles of art are welcome, including traditional and digital. Art must be at minimum, finished works that use the extent of your skillset, on unlined paper with clean lighting.

    • Allowed: drawings, paintings, sketch pages, digital renders, dioramas, fabric crafts, and more. Examples: one color half-body drawing of two people with no background, and uncolored linework full-body page with inking shadows of one person and background OR two drawings with one full-body person in full color and simple background.

    • Not Allowed: moodboards, edits, low-effort digital art, low effort collage, artwork that is not accurate to the fic, and such. Examples: a single rough sketch on lined paper OR low contrast digital art with unclear details.

  • Art generated in part or whole with AI is strictly not allowed.

ALL-NEW, ALL-DIFFERENT FIC CLAIMS

Claim summaries will be posted to our Tumblr and Dreamwidth. Claims will be time-logged and submitted through Google Forms when claims open. By claiming a fic, you are signing up for the Big Bang. Be sure; you cannot drop out after claims without penalty.

If we reach a certain participant threshold, claims will be done as ranked-choice preference this year. If we do not meet the threshold, claims will be first-come, first-served as in previous years.

You may participate ONCE (1x) per big bang cycle. If you are writing fic, this precludes you participating as an artist.


You may claim ONE (1) fic per big bang cycle. Please look at the tags, rating, universe, and the other data your author has included in their Claims Kit. It's important to pick a project that motivates and inspires you to invest serious time and effort, in a congruous level to your writer's serious time and effort. BE SURE whatever you’re claiming is tonally consistent with the art you’re comfortable making, and is in line with the fics you like reading.

Claims are no longer fully anonymous in order to afford participants more space to talk about their projects in community and keep up creative momentum. You may encounter fic mentions organically in the wild; that is fine. However, you should claim based on content that interests you, not the author.

Keep in mind your willingness to make art of the content denoted in the writer’s Claims Kit – for example, are you claiming an explicit, porn-heavy fic but you’re uncomfortable drawing NSFW? Are you thinking of claiming fluff when you like to draw exclusively whump? This is the only fandom event format that is intentionally a celebration of long fic. Set you and your partner up for success! Honor the content of your writer's fic whilst enjoying content that most inspires your own creativity!

Claims posts will look like this sample:


UNIVERSE: 1872

RATING: E

WORD COUNT: 16,500/20,000

WARNINGS: graphic depictions of violence, wounds that don't heal, blood, temporary character death, secondary character death, canonical pig eating references

TAGS: monster!steve, monsterfucking, alcoholism cw, grief and war, unreliable narrator, red wolf, natasha barton, bruce banner, carol danvers, post-canon, nature, character death fallout, horror, gun kink, blood kink, weird biology, open/ambiguous ending, mystery, gore

 

SUMMARY:
Tony’s a city man, but he garners an appreciation for the wilderness of nature as he tracks Sheriff Rogers missing remains across the land.

Steve came back from the dead as something oh so mightily inhuman and it's up to Tony to decide how much of him as HIMSELF actually remains, and how much of him Tony can love. It turns out to be uh, a lot. Quiet bloodily. Tony and Steve engage in nasty monstrous-sorta undead desperate, you're-alive! sex.

Steve continues his living mission of hunting bad guys across great distances. After Steve fights and kills Bruce, who has become the Hulk, Tony must confront whether or not Steve has gone too far, and ultimately, decides that there is no distance Steve will go to, that Tony will not follow him to.

 

VIBES: poetic horror western with an instrumental soundtrack, all the gory bits of 1872 amped up, the coffin of Tony's iron man armor fighting monster Steve, unrelenting loyalty in the face of great moral destruction

FIC EXCERPT:

[a full-prose, 1k-5k fic excerpt, so you, the artist, can get a good sense for the piece and whether or not it inspires you!]


Again, writers are required to submit 50% of their completed draft to qualify for Claims. Cap-IM will give you, the artist, access to this draft via link once Claims are complete.

ART POSTING

 

 

 

Works must be posted to AO3 and submitted to our event collection. Artists and writers are highly encouraged to post their works as 'Inspired By' on AO3, which links the works to each other, but allows single-ownership retention of the work. 'Co-Created' is also an acceptable posting method, to be used with discretion. You must coordinate posting with your writer.

You must warn for any content that requires an archive warning on AO3. CNTW is a valid and complete warning.

Artists may post chapters/multiple posts of their art serially, weekly, bi-weekly, OR all at once. Your two artworks must be complete and submitted by the Big Bang deadline. Cap-IM recognizes that getting thoughtful interaction with art pieces has become a substantial challenge in the algorithmic age and this change is intended to help more people have more opportunity to comment on your artworks.


SOMETIMES WE FAIL

OFF-RAMPS


WRITERS, If you are not at ~50% of your wordcount by NOVEMBER 14, consider whether or not you are on track to completing your project with a humane-to-you workload.

If your wordcount is getting away from you as Claims approach, we recommend estimating/re-evaluating your projected final wordcount and dividing it by the number of months remaining. If the resulting figure is more than 10k per month, consider rolling over to the next cycle.

[total projected words] – [words you have right now] / [months left]

Once your fic is put up for claims and claimed, another human is invested in your work. As such, the last day to drop out without penalty is NOVEMBER 14.

EMERGENCIES

Because this is a collaborative event – meaning: another fannish person is investing their time and energy in your work and vice versa – we urge you to be mindful of your capacity and creative energy. That said, life does happen. If you’re having an illness or an emergency or other extreme situation, please just email us, and we will work with you to accommodate your life in any way possible.

DROPPING OUT

 

 

If you must drop out before artist claims, be free. No penalties.

If you must drop out after claims, speak up as early as possible. First, let your partner know. Then let us know.

If you must drop out as a writer once your fic has been claimed by an artist:

  • Both writer and artist may decide to roll the project over into the next BB cycle. No penalty.

  • If a writer whose artist has already created art drops out, we will source a pinch writer for that artist. The defaulting writer will be banned until the next Big Bang cycle is done.

  • If an artist drops out after claims, the mods will work to find the writer a pinch artist who is a good match for the project. The defaulting artist will be banned until the next Big Bang cycle is done.

BANS

 

Big Bang penalties no longer carry over to other Cap-IM events; if you fail the Big Bang and incur a ban, you may still sign up for the next cycle of HE, or RBB, or other non-BB. If you’d like to lift a ban early, you have three options:

  • Finish your work! Once you post it, the ban is gone.

  • Step up and complete a pinch hit for any Cap-IM event.

  • Wait one calendar year, or until the completion of the following Big Bang cycle.

sholio: Gurathin from Murderbot looking soft and wondering (Murderbot-Gura)
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I'm not sure if this is complete enough for AO3, but I got a delicious hurt/comforty prompt on Tumblr, and ended up writing 1800 words for it. (Prompt and fic under the cut.)

Update: Now posted on AO3 as Soft Reboot.

1800 words of forced drugging )

Murderbot fanvid: I Lived

Jul. 14th, 2025 09:52 pm
sholio: tv murderbot andrew skarsgard looking to the side (Murderbot-MB)
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Okay, vid-source-assisting enablers, your reward is here. ♥



With every broken bone, I swear I lived. Team/family vid. (Contains some sci-fi violence as per the show, flickering/flashing lights in a couple of scenes, and canon pairings in the background, but it's mostly focused on team + Murderbot.)

Song: I Lived
Artist: OneRepublic
Length: 03:57
AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/67565471
Tumblr: here

Having made this in a fit of exploding feelings today, I plan to get subtitles/downloads up soon (as soon as I remember how to do all of that; it's been ages since I made a vid!).

Temp download: Download from Dropbox (286 Mb, it's huge)
sholio: tv murderbot andrew skarsgard looking to the side (Murderbot-MB)
[personal profile] sholio


I watched this like 4 times in a row. It definitely contain spoilers, but it's divorced enough from the actual plotline of the show that if you don't mind SOME spoilers and want to get an idea of what the show is like, this might be a nice one to watch. (Warning for some gore.)

On AO3
sholio: tv murderbot andrew skarsgard looking to the side (Murderbot-MB)
[personal profile] sholio
[personal profile] scioscribe gave me a delightful Murderbot TV-verse prompt, hidden because it's somewhat spoilery for the finale:
Click to viewPost-finale Gurathin, burdened with all these memories of Sanctuary Moon, still doesn't like the show but now can't resist getting into nitpicky arguments about it on futuristic forums, where he and Murderbot keep crossing paths and gradually realize who they're talking to and get very fond about it without admitting to anything.


600 words or so of future fan forum shenanigans )
sholio: heart in a cup of tea (Heart)
[personal profile] sholio
I wrote another Murderbot 1x10 episode missing scene.

Echoes (gen, 2500 words, Gurathin-centric)
Summary redacted because of spoilers; basically Gurathin's POV on some of the events of the finale.

A few notes on the fic (spoilery for both fic and episode):
under here• I kept tweaking Gura's final line to Murderbot, so it might be a bit different if you read an earlier version. (I felt like I needed to soften it from how it originally was. They are hard to write! Especially keeping their edge when they're so soft in the final scene.)

• We know Murderbot has trouble figuring out what it's feeling, but I also think it's very plausible that Gurathin has the same problem, if not as badly. He's repressed so much for so long. Asking himself to identify exactly what emotions he's feeling is something that some therapist or other taught him to do.

• This is not necessary context for the fic and it's entirely subject to interpretation, but what I was thinking when it wrote it is that Murderbot using "its" for augmented humans in its last line of dialogue to Gurathin is actually MB doing roughly the same thing (except more emotionally positive) that Gurathin is doing in the episode of the show where he's arguing with Mensah and calls it "he" and then corrects himself to "it." It's over-identifying and doesn't even realize that it's doing so; I mean, it's worried about Gurathin, obviously, and that's why it's here, but there's also a certain amount of "we are the same kind of creature" going on here, even though it doesn't realize it's relating to him on that level. It knows that he might have damaged himself with the data overload because it also knows that it might damage itself in a similar way, and he has much less storage to handle it. And it's just kind of subconsciously being concerned about him as it might be concerned about a fellow construct, or itself, having taken damage. Of course neither of them parses all of that consciously.


In other events, Terrible Temperature Troubles Flash Exchange revealed gifts tonight! I got two absolutely delightful gifts - An Official Complaint Against the Universe (Babylon 5, Vir & Londo, hypothermia and h/c) and Consequences of Cold (Biggles, Biggles/EvS, snuggling when chilled). I loved them!

And finally, [community profile] hurtcomfortex author reveals were tonight. I wrote Sleepover (MASH, 1700 words, Margaret POV) with huddling for warmth and light comfort after nightmares.
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[personal profile] sholio
Finished the season finale, immediately turned around and wrote an episode tag.

Arrow (~2K words, gen, Mensah & Gurathin)
Set right during/after the end of the last scene in the episode.

I also saw on Tumblr that it's been renewed for a season two. Something delightful to look forward to!

Enemies to lovers

Jul. 9th, 2025 10:29 am
sholio: two men on horseback in the desert (Biggles-on a horse)
[personal profile] sholio
I ended up nominating a few things for Enemies to Lovers (hush, I'm using it as a bribe for finishing my other assignments xD) and this made me spend some time thinking about which of my ships actually qualify - I had some trouble coming up with a third fandom, and trying to figure out where exactly I'd draw the line. (Like, I wouldn't call Sam/Bucky E2L - more like people who mildly antagonize each other to friends/lovers. But some might!)

So I got to wondering how other people define it. I selected check boxes since some people might have more than one answer. I mean, *I'm* not even sure where I fall in all of this!

Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 59


How would you define Enemies to Lovers? (or Enemies to Friends, if you're not a shipper)

View Answers

Must try to kill each other (or at least want to), or be on opposite sides of a conflict with life-or-death stakes
21 (35.6%)

Rivalries like sports rivalries are fine, but there needs to be a strong personal element and/or unhealthy fixation on each other (not just regular sports team conflict)
26 (44.1%)

Any kind of rivalry or antagonism will do
12 (20.3%)

For me it's about the Vibe™ - from distrust/antagonism to trust, whatever form that takes
26 (44.1%)

I do not accept it as proper E2L if there's any softening at all - they must remain antagonists
0 (0.0%)

I know it when I see it but don't get too fussed about definitions
9 (15.3%)

My thoughts are too complex for your ticky boxes (answer in comments)
2 (3.4%)

Not my trope so I don't care, but I want to click something.
3 (5.1%)

(no subject)

Jul. 8th, 2025 01:25 pm
sholio: sun on winter trees (Default)
[personal profile] sholio
I have discovered Enemies to Lovers exchange. o deer.

THAT being said, I really need to put a cork in the new exchange signups for a bit. Summer of Horror and Temperature Flash both reveal somewhere around this weekend, as well as that being the Casefic submission deadline. I have a pinch hit, I have things to edit, and I haven't even started Just Married.

Today it's rainy AND smoky, a wonderful combination.
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